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SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - lorraine42

lorraine42 — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:43:06 +0100

Quick word about Page Rank.
Page Rank is assigned to each and very page of a website. Most site owners will only check their home page - ie www.mysite.com - but the interior pages will rank below this or not all. The trick is to mix up your linking strategy. When you find a forum or site that allows comment with code lay down other pages like this ... http://www.mysite.com/reallygoodpag... or even better use this code
<A title="Really Good Page" href="http://www.mysite.com/reallygoodpag..." target="">Really Good Page</A>
this improves not only the page rank (theoritically)for that interior page - but more importantly adds weight to the phrase you are using to link with.
Regards
Tony

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - joe

joe — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:01:19 +0100

Hi Zoe,

The keywords on the 'admin' section are the default keywords for each page if you have not set up keywords for that page specficially. Generally it is better to set different words per page, as they are more specific to the actual page contents, but for pages that you do not set the words on, they will use the default set from 'admin'. I hope that makes things clearer.

Joe

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - Zoe

Zoe — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:27:28 +0100

Hello
Whats the difference between the key words on the page metadata and the keywords in the admin site information? Should the site admin keyword box be different or have all the keywords from each page? And do search engines pick up keywords from both?
Thanks

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - joe

joe — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:35:40 +0100

Hi Jeff,

If you go to:

http://www.utourcostarica.com/servi... or
http://www.utourcostarica.com/testi...

and look at the page source, you'll see the changes and the correct Meta data. Probably the best way to explain this to a client is to show them the links to the individual pages as above.

Because the site doesn't reload the HTML on a page click (which makes the site quicker), you won't see this in normal navigation, but it is there, and the search engines do see it. I hope that helps,

Joe

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - Jeff

Jeff — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:03:55 +0000

Wow, Joe that is hard to believe... but I'll take your word I guess. I was going to ask that SAME question.? I typed in all kinds of proper meta data on each individual page and saved it all.
but when you reach my site and look up in the search engine bar ...all I see is utourcostarica? The site name. What is a simple way to explain this to a client who I do sites for?

Thanks for any input on this and other SEO ideas.

Jeff

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - joe

joe — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:41:24 +0000

Hi K,

When you arrive at your SiteMaker site, you are shown the 'Site' meta data. Because we don't refresh the page when you click on menu links (just change the contents) the HTML always stays the same. However, if you go to the URL for the actual page in your site, e.g. sitename.moonfruit.com/pagename it will show the 'page' meta data.

When a search engine vists, it sees the menu represented as a set of links, all of which go to the actual page of your site with that contents, e.g. sitename.moonfruit.com/pagename. So the search engine navigates through each of the pages in turn and indexes them using the correct 'page' meta data on each page.

So even though you don't always see the change, it is working and your pages are being correclty indexed.

I hope that helps,

Joe

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - k

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:30:03 +0000

Here's what I don't understand...
I set meta data on the page and site level, but all that shows is the site level. What's up with that?

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - Phil

Phil — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:15:31 +0000

oops... i feel so stupid now... heehee...

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - joe

joe — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:14:27 +0000

I think your louise site has a PR of 5, not 1. ;-) The Page Rank is the value assigned to it by Google from 1 to 10, not its position in the search results. Your site is returned in position 1, but has a PR of 5 as determined by the mighty Google.

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - Phil

Phil — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:07:58 +0000

My Moonfruit site has a high page ranking (PR 1)
Even if you just type in 'Louise' on Google: http://www.louise-redknapp.co.uk

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - joe

joe — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:53:41 +0000

Hi Jeff,

Our Flash infrastructure really won't make any difference to your rankings. All your site contents are represented in the HTML and we use 'progressive enhancement' to upgrade what the user sees once we detect Flash. (See our previous article on it, under technical).

Many moonfruit sites have a high page rank and rank highly on searches, e.g.

http://extremekidrock.moonfruit.com... (PR 5)
http://dumptrumpet.moonfruit.com/ (PR 5)
http://www.kilimanjaro2007.moonfrui... (PR 4 - even a free site!)

To name but a few. So provided you put the work in and continue to grow and develop your site, your rankings will grow accordingly.

I hope that helps,

Joe

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - Craze-E

Craze-E — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:17:05 +0000

mmmmm, interesting stuff, fantastic read!

Tom Brown, www.craze-e.kk5.org

SiteMaker and Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) - Part II - thecompletist

thecompletist — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:53:11 +0000

This is great info and I've been reading many other 3rd party articles and listening to mr-seo's podcasts to help me understand how things work in seo land. I guess my biggest concern as with many moonfruit clients is what about FLASH ? I seriously have about 5-10 sites to create over the next few months and would love to get an unlimited account here and do that. I have a few already but the more I research SEO Tactics .... "clean html" is what keeps being talked about. Help us understand how the moonfruit platform will still provide us with a chance in the SEO world.

thanks
Jeff