New release coming next week
We are proud to announce that we are expecting to update SiteMaker to version R5.0 next week.
We've decided to bump our major release number to 5.0 because there has been an enormous amount of work done over the last months on the new edit environment. In our last release back in November, we introduced Flex (new Flash application framework) into the edit environment, which continued to talk to the old Flash edit tools that made up your site. We have now rationalised these into a single Flex environment which simplifies the code base and allows us to more rapidly develop features in the future using the Flex framework. Flex is still based on the Flash Player but it provides more tools to the developer who can therefore produce features more quickly. The big new features coming down the line (blog, eCommerce) will benefit significantly from being developed with Flex. These features are already in progress and well on the way to completion. More about that later.
But for things you get now, this new release contains the following changes:
New toolbar edit environment
- New loading sequence
- Sidebar panels now scroll making it easier to reach some options when many panels are open
- The available toolbar shortcuts is now customisable (good for those that liked the old ‘advanced toolbar’)
- People panel now appears integrated into new edit environment, making it easy to use on devices with small screens
- Updated services area for Google Analytics, AdSense and Webmaster Tools, plus some additional new services
- Toolbar preferences are attached to the user rather than the site, meaning different site admins can have different toolbar preferences

Sidebar Scrolling
Other designer and usability enhancements
- Line spacing control for text boxes: standard fonts on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis, graphic fonts for the whole text box (this has been a feature asked for by designers for years)
- Eye dropper feature on colour mixer allows you to pick a colour already in use on the page
- Longer links can be added for external URLs, with the option to open in the same or new window; previously, links always opened a new window
- Edit history cleaned up (less clicks to undo/redo)

Eye dropper feature

Line Spacing

New link editor
Performance improvements
- Images are automatically resized when they are scaled so visitors get quicker page load times
- We've reduced the number of requests to load a page and made Facebook calls asynchronous which will also improving site load times
One thing to note is that we have upped the minimum requirement of the Flash Player for the new toolbar to version 10.1, which is the latest stable version. Note, this requirement is just for the new edit environment and visitors will still only require Flash Player 8. We've been watching the uptake of FP 10.1 across our sites carefully and have seen it rise very quickly in the last few weeks so hopefully many of you will already have this. If you have any problems with the upgrade please get in touch.
What we’re working on
It’s been a while since the last release and what you see above is not all that we’ve been working on. More is in progress and it certainly won’t be as long again until the next release.
Growth - As a company we’re growing very fast which is both good and challenging. Good in that the development team has nearly doubled in size in the last 6 months (and we’re still hiring) but challenging in that we have to manage the growth pains. Also in the past few months we’ve completely rebuilt our server infrastructure and storage for massive scalability and continue to push content via the CDN (Content Delivery Network) to improve performance in all parts of the world.
But you’re interested in features, so here’s what we’re working on in the likely order it will be released in:
Blog – Many of you have asked why Moonfruit doesn’t have a traditional blog... Well, we will soon! The blog will allow you to publish dynamic content, manage comments and tags and assign permissions, while still maintaining the design control that makes our tools unique. We’ll release some screenshots of the tools in the weeks to come. But personally I’m very excited!
HTML improvements – We have two of our PHDs working on our HTML rendering for both desktop and mobile. We’re targeting an improvement in the mobile device HTML first (as there are more of these that don’t support Flash), but this is part of the overall multi-format publishing (Flash/HTML/HTML 5, etc.) that will evolve in the coming months/years. Flash isn’t going away, but our HTML version should be better.
Ecommerce – the eCommerce features are likely to arrive last of these but will be worth the wait. With a product manager (for many hundreds/thousands of products), different product display and checkout options, it will be a vast improvement. Like the blog much of the ‘management’ will be in Flex, but the products and carts will be displayed dynamically within your site.
There maybe a few more surprises too.
And finally...
As always, thanks for your patience and support. We’re really ramping up at the moment so the coming months and years will just keep getting better. We’re in this for the long haul and we hope you are too ;-)
Comments
Ive been with moonfruit for years now and about to make another website i may as well wait now. Thanks for all the hard work and please, please keep us updated. I use to have an electronics website which i sold items but i stopped because it was too hard. so this new update will encorage me to start it up again! THANKYOU SO MUCH :)
Alex
Yay ! Updates Rock !!!
Must agree when Moonfruit launch a new update its good, also i love the plans of quicker updates.
Robert.
Absolutely the best news re upcoming Blog software - you're saving a lot of headaches with that one!! Keep it up.
Griffy.
So, looking forward to the updates! Can't wait for the blog and ecommerce updates.
Wow can't wait, without you moonfruit I wouldn't be living my dream, thanks guys.
Sounding good guys. Looking forward to having a play with the new tools. Still like to keep up with your development.
About time ehh! ;-)
Look forward to it going live!
These new tools sound incredible!!! Especially the eye dropper colour tool - been needing that for a long time!!! Wooho!!
Moonfruit is quite simply the best website building tool there is - so adaptable and has everything you could possibly want... and all the little extras you didn't think of... well they're all in the pipe line!!
love moonfruit and the new updates sound great.. if you're not a big company, moonfruit is the best way to have a and hold a website!
oh exciting "new toys" to play with, can't wait.
UPDATE:
We are going live with the release now.
So you will for a very short period see a holding page saying -
"Service Temporarily Unavailable"
This will only take a few minutes so please be patient while we release Version 5. We will let you know shortly when it is complete.
Thanks
Walt
Since update Google ads now overlapping pages. See site www.leedssocialclubs.co.uk for how they now look. Same in IE and Firefox
Hi Alan,
Thanks for the update. We are aware of this and currently looking at it. Only some sites (regardless of browser) are seeing this issue and it seems the problem occurs when the site size is different from the page size. So we're now looking at how to fix this bug as quickly as possible.
But thanks for letting us know.
Walt
All the data seems to have been wiped from my forms.. and something strange is happening with menus and membership permissions. Will data be recovered? Do I need to raise a ticket?
@Paul E - the form bug we have now fixed and will restore all data. For the menu/membership, can you be more specific about what you're seeing? Thanks,
Joe
Please help - my site jukebox has gone potty. For some reason all 3 tracks have disappeared and when I try to upload them again the jukebox starts flashing and I can't get out of it. Am I missing something?
updates looking good, cant wait for the ecommerce to arrive just in the middle of a local martial arts website that will probably use the ecommerce in the future check it out and your thoughts please www.karate-kickboxinguk.com
I heart Moonfruit!!
This is what I found.. I have certain pages hidden from public view - the menu buttons only visible to members once they have logged in. One of the menu buttons that is normally hidden was showing.
After investigating this, I now don't think it is membership related - this particular page is open to everyone, but the page was hidden from the menu - the tick "hide page in menu" had become unticked.
I forgot to mention.. I first became alerted to an issue because no menu buttons were visable at all... but after a few minutes they returned... with the extra button showing.
just tried the new tool bar, I love it so much quicker to find things, the eye dropper tool is great upto now i've been using the PrtScn then pasting to photoshop to match colours well done to the person who sorted this out!!
I was totally horrified when loading my page the other day to find the "POP-UP GALLERY" now only works in a minimum of 3 rows. Before your could run the gallery in 1 row.. WHY THE CHANGE??.. in doing this Site Maker have completely ruined a major selling point to my potential clients. Please restore the POP-UP GALLERY so you can choose 1 row. I don't understand why this important feature had to change and feel absolutely frustrated having spent month design my site and lose all my data.
Cheers guys!
Several Images have disappeared from one of my pages.
Thanks Paul,
We're looking into your comments.
Walt
@Paul, can you tell us which page please and if you know any of the image names that were there. We'll take a look. Thx.
Joe
@Deb - the jukebox bug is being fixed, don't worry your play list will be fine.
@Daren - the pop-up gallery change is a bug. We'll fix it. Don't worry we're not trying to change the functionality of the gallery. Thanks for letting us know.
Help.....I'm new to this and still on a free trial but am so frustrated so close to giving up......havn't been able to change the site name on the home page........now I'm trying to go into edit and the screen is almost blank, apart from a plain panel and everything including the toolbars are grey........I wanted to try to change the site name as your technician explained but already tried that so don't hold out much hope!!!!!!Regards Lynn
The page is 'instructors'... you will see the 4 gaps. I believe the file names were victoriaF.gif, DonnaF.gif, Chris.jpg, JoseF.gif.
Also I made a copy of this website on 19th March, and I just checked - the same 4 images have disappear from that copy - it is in my list of sites with 19/03/10 Copy in the site name.
Thanks Paul,
We'll check this out immediately.
Walt
Hi Paul,
Are you able to confirm a date that you are certain those images were present? We've checked our code and we've made no changes in this area. But we are open to the release having had an impact but it would be useful to know when you can say for certain you last saw those thumbnail images on the page.
Thanks
Walt
hi after your changeover yesterday or today all my music all my jukebox playlists have disappeared i cant upload any music to the site im furious i pay a premium to you and this is appalling the site keeps crashing whats going on and what are you doing about it
a very annoyed client
wayne
***UPDATE:
We have just released a bunch of patches for a number of known bugs.
1. Google Analytics code can be re-added
2. AdSense Customisation can now be carried out through the Services panel
3. Pop-up Gallery no longer forces a minimum 3 x 4 matrix - e.g. 1 x 3 now possible again
4. Playlists have been restored to the Jukebox
5. Websites with Gradient Effect HTML background no longer break the edit environment
And several other less critical bugs that have been mopped up along the way.
What we are still working on but will not be pushed out until tomorrow is the issue of AdSense vertical adverts overlapping the site. At present we recommend disabling the offending advert until it is fixed tomorrow.
Thanks for your feedback today and your patience. This has been a very big release for us as it has seen some huge underlaying changes to the code, format and infrastructure and it's been underway for over 6 months. And despite the bugs highlighted above we are really looking forward to cracking on with some really juicy features that we know you'll find as exciting as we do.
Cheers,
Walt
Hi Walt,
Thanks for the update on the fixing of bugs.
Can you add to the list that the Pictures in the pop up gallery when clicked on do not repostion within the Site area as before. For an example see www.leedssocialclubs.co.uk/bramley-band-club and you will see what I mean.
Alan
Alan,
Thanks for that, we'll certainly add that to the list and attend to that as quickly as we can.
Cheers,
Walt
I would like to know why the HTML feature over powers the menu and login application?
Hi Tony,
Sorry do you mean the HTML Snippet widget? If so that is due to the HTML snippet widget floating above the site. This has been the case since inception and there is nothing we can do to change the behaviour of this particular technology (use of Wmode).
The only thing that is possible is to resize the HTML Snippet widget so that it allows menu elements and login widgets to clear it or be accessible.
If that isn't what you mean then give us a few more details and an example and we'll do our best to assist.
Hope that helps.
Walt
Hi Walt
Post new release I am missing some pictures in pop up galleries at www.websitedesignpeterborough.com
On the left hand column on the Home Page and on some of the pop ups on the Portfolio page. Please can you look into this.
+ Did this release ever sort out the bug you promised to fix earlier in the year re the number of characters in the Site Name/Title:
http://www.moonfruitlounge.com/post...
thanks Justin
I can view my website but I can't log in. It crashes when I try. I've tried it from numerous PC's. I accidently changed the background image to a large picture, now it won't open!!
I don't want to keep the image, but I can't log in to take it off!!
Any help please
maguirechristopher@hotmail.com
Tried to replace one of my SCribd insert tables with a revised page: 2 problems, a) the highlight of the old HTML snippet wont hold to hightlight it all and delete, only the chara's in the window; b) the new snippet doesn't work, ie nothing shows for Preview or when site viewed. Help !
Hi Justin,
Thanks we'll check this out. And no this release did not inlcude that fix.
Thanks
Walt
For all of you who are having problems with the Google AdSense Adverts overlapping we have a work around if you wish to apply it.
While we work on fixing this bug you may wish to consider this if you have few sites or sites with a small number of pages. The problem occurs on those pages where the page length differs from the site length. Where the page length is identical to the site length there is no problem.
For some customers this work around could be problematic especially those with a large number of sites or a small number but with many pages. I would stress though that we are working on a fix for this bug as quickly as we can - it has our highest priority.
Hope that helps
Walt
Moonfruit has to go mobile and fast... iPhones etc don't have flash, also don't forget the iPad.
I have lots of potential customers saying they need their website to look nice on the mobile. Quote "Everyones using their mobile now"
Please can you give us some idea (date) when we will see moonfruit more mobile compatible.
Being more mobile compatible will also get you more customers.
Many Thanks.
Follow-up from yesterday's missing images.... our instructors use the site everyday, and I am confident this issue occurred yesterday . Like Justin, these images are in a pop-up gallery - I I didn't think it was possible to have gaps like this in pop-up galleries?
I noticed another problem occur in the few days before the release - & " characters in headings appearing as their html codes ( & "quot etc) I fixed them a couple of times. Is this related to this release?
Hi Chris,
OK, we'll have a look for you and see what we can do. But can you name the image as we've removed the background image and we can log in. I would say a lot of your images are little big i.e. over 200kb in size which may slow down the page/site load.
If you can tell us which image if another one is causing an issue we'll see what we can do. Also can you confirm what browsers and version you are checking with and what Flash version for each browser (on each PC).
Thanks
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Oakmet,
Can you tell us what browser and version you are using plus what version of Flash Player. Is there a specific page we should look at?
Cheers,
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Jeg,
Thanks. Part of our release was to introduce some technology that would make creating portable friendly sites more achievable. Watch this space.
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Hi Paul,
Yep we are on it and we hope to have a fix today.
Thanks,
Walt
Form Emails:
Emails are now flowing again from forms. This was unrelated to the release - more down to one big fat juicy email clogging the whole server. This email was dealt with and emails (and those backlogged by the blockage) are flowing again.
Cheers - Walt
There is something happening with the list of my sites in my account... sites I have not edited for weeks appear at the top of the list, as if they have been accessed today... is this now showing when the site was last accessed by a member, or will this settle down? It was happening yesterday, but still happening today. Thanks
Adding to the comments by Jeg regarding iphones etc,
1. There seems to be a similar issue with google chrome browsers... I can only see the html version of moonfruit sites in the google chrome browser. Is a flash upgrade for google chrome available / Is a resolution likely? Or have I (and many others) just got our settings wrong to view moonfruit sites properly on google chrome browsers?.
2. I have found that if you use images within your site, they appear randomly on the html version.. and make the page look confusing and generally awful. However, if you put the image within a pop-up gallery (even a 1x1 gallery) the image doesn't appear at all - making the html site look much better on mobiles. I am in the prcess of converting my sites in this way to try to improve appearance on mobiles (and google chrome).
Do you know of other tips that might help us improve our moonfruit sites?
This issue will only become more significant, and I am under pressure now to move sites onto a HTML base for this very reason. Please help!
Hi Paul,
Looks OK to me. The entries match the database. I do notice you have websites with slightly different addresses but identical names e.g. esdirect.sm4.biz and esdirect.t83.net both with the site name ES Direct Ltd. One edited on July 13 and one on July 4. There are several sites like this.
Hope that helps.
Walt
Hi Paul,
1. What version of Flash are you running under Chrome? You will need to update Flash for every browser as it is browser specific not computer specific. Is Chrome set to block cookies or javascript as this will kill the Flash.
2. The HTML version is not meant to represent the site but to assist SEO so the images will be out of sync. The site is not meant to be viewed in HTML. This is one of the things we are working on - as Joe said we have two PHDs working on algorythms - to enable better representation of the Flash in the HTML. But this will take time. As for the Pop-up Gallery, the image is loaded in a widget so it won't be shown as the widget is dynamic and the HTML static.
Our software is Flash based and the HTML we produce will generally only ever be a representation of what is created in the Flash. And while we do work on refactoring the HTML to better represent the sites on screens of varying sizes (including portable devices) the site will still be Flash.
Hope that helps.
Walt
Hi, Walt, no this is not the issue. The multiple sites are different versions of sites in development, or backups.
Please look at my list of sites. The second one (starts with babington). I am absolutely certain I did not edit that site at 12:37 am today (I was asleep at the time).
Number 6 in the list (starts with mad).. I have not edited this for at least 2 weeks it was not edited yesterday as the timeline suggests.
I first noticed this yesterday, and my first reaction was to change my password which I did yesterday morning... but it has been happening since then too.
Ok Paul,
We'll check this out but they appear to match the Admin details we have and I can't imagine anyone is editing the sites other than those known to you. But we'll have a look at the back end and see if there are any irregularities.
Walt
UPDATE:
Google AdSense Adverts overlapping site bug now fixed.
Please check your sites.
Thanks for your patience on this.
Walt
Walt thanks. I do not believe anyone is editing my sites.. It started yesterday at roughly the same time as the upgrade..
re 39, Oakmet.
I'm using IE v7 and I've updated the flash player that was prompted on the site yesterday, - v10.1 was it? (and tried it again after. Same result, nil.)
The particular page with the table I'm trying to replace with an update, - now blank is ..../Nationals , 2nd Scribd table on that page.
@Oakmet - the message I see in that HTML snippet is 'error - document deleted by user' which is not coming from us. It looks like it's coming from the site that the HTML is being loaded from, which suggests its working at our end, but not loading the content from the HTML source. Does that help?
Joe
When I download the images that my clients upload by form, these images downloaded erroneous way and cut, from the last update.
I use computers outside of home to edit my sites. I don't have admin. privileges on these so I can't download latest FP. It seems like I can still edit my moonfruit site without it. My question is will I be able to do it in the future or you will set it up so editing can't be done without 10.1 FP?
I am fine with old editing tools so latest update will not be neccessary for me.
I'm having big problems editing my site since Wednesday - it takes ages to load and most of the tools in the insert menus are missing. Also, when trying the 'view my site' button the site freezes.
Also noticed that login details show as null.
Phil
I've just checked the blog widget today. Is this the new widget announced as a part of this release?
If it is, I think it's quite poor and almost incomparable to "real" blog providers. It's at a stage where it's not advantageous to create your blog at Moonfruit, which I personally think is a shame.
I've been using Moonfruit for a couple of years now and I'm very happy with this CMS. It's the best I've ever tried, but I really hope you'd put just a little more effort into the blog widget.
Also, as you maybe noticed, I'm not english, I'm from Denmark and I create almost every site in danish because the Moonfruit system allows me to. But the Blog can't be created in danish, as far as I know, because of the standard buttons and text, which cannot be edited. I do not wish to publish a site, or a blog, where half is danish and the other half is english.
And one question more, will the text in the blog get indexed on search engines?
Thanks for a great service, and I've noticed the progress Moonfruit has gone through lately, it's good to see that :-)
RE 55,Oakmet.
No, its reading Deleted (correctly) because I took the old table off Scribd site before I uploaded my revised table, which now wont go on. To test that the fault wasn't with the new embed code from Scribd I tried putting a duplicate table (ie first on that same page, majors,) -It wouldn't go either, so it a Moonfruit issue. To repeat, also, the editor box doesn't highlight all, only the chara's in the window. The preview button doesn't 'green' after Apply. I also notice that If I try to preview other inserted Scribd table they dont now show, - just blank like I get when I've tried to insert my new table, - nothing at Preview.
my site is still not working since downloading new flash player on safari. all of my html embeds are playing up and now the safari crashes but only when got to moonfruit sites with html embeds.
a real problem.
Hi since the update I have lost the ability to edit my site. It partially loads but the screen stays grey. Can someone help!?!?!
Hi Joe & Walt,
Firstly thank you for the amazing upgrade and new features, etc.
I wanted to ask, what triggered the last updated feature to refer to the 14th, day of update, when the actual site hadn't been updated by the webmaster?
Is is possible to know what part of the upgrade would trigger a new date for last updated date...
As I've not updated 3 of the sites in one account for several weeks, yet one now says lasted updated 14th July... So this could only have been triggered from the day of upgrade, just wondered why and how.
Cheers,
Darrel.
@mrjoe - the new blog isn't out yet. The tool you are looking at is the very old blog.
@oakmet - can you send us your embed code for the snippet and we'll take a look. We'll also follow up the selection issue in the paste box
@Isaac can you tell us your site address and we'll take a look. Thanks.
Joe
RESPONSE to #61 from Oakmet.
Embed code - update (Minors) as req'd:-
<a title="View Nat'l Chmpshps, Minor 2p on Scribd" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/34329654/..." style="margin: 12px auto 6px auto; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; display: block; text-decoration: underline;">Nat'l Chmpshps, Minor 2p</a> <object id="doc_674199609281679" name="doc_674199609281679" height="500" width="100%" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..." style="outline:none;" rel="media:presentation" resource="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..." xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/searchmonke..." xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" > <param name="movie" value="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..."> <param name="wmode" value="opaque"> <param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"> <param name="FlashVars" value="document_id=34329654&access_key=key-1yzv3zwwk0gplqmnhnd1&page=1&viewMode=list"> <embed id="doc_674199609281679" name="doc_674199609281679" src="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..." type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="500" width="100%" wmode="opaque" bgcolor="#ffffff"></embed> </object>
ALSO
checked embed code for 'Majors', as already established and displayed ok but will NOT load (into Minors' pos'n) this past week:-
<a title="View Nat'l Champs - Major- 2p on Scribd" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/34142936/..." style="margin: 12px auto 6px auto; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; display: block; text-decoration: underline;">Nat'l Champs - Major- 2p</a> <object id="doc_751075368695956" name="doc_751075368695956" height="600" width="100%" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..." style="outline:none;" > <param name="movie" value="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..."> <param name="wmode" value="opaque"> <param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"> <param name="FlashVars" value="document_id=34142936&access_key=key-1kxqk9gi9j94sir5j0eb&page=1&viewMode=list"> <embed id="doc_751075368695956" name="doc_751075368695956" src="http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdVi..." type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="600" width="100%" wmode="opaque" bgcolor="#ffffff"></embed> </object>
REMINDER, - Highlight within window now only works for charas in window, - cant hightlight whole of old code in order to replace it
CJ (oakmet).
Hey Joe,
I also got the same problem as isaac it takes around 10 minutes for the site when fully loaded ot go from grey to blue so i can start editing. Only happens on this site when i login on another account loads fine.
Scott
Been using your site for about three years now. Started building new site last week when it all up graded its self. being thick. was a bit worried thinking i was going to have to learn it all over again. But wait no it was all so easy to use. I have to say it making my life easy well done Moonfruit really looking forward to all the new ecommerces upgrades.
Thanks again Trev the Butcher
Hi Oakmet,
For now to select all of the text within the editor box please right click and then choose 'Select all'. We will investigate to see if there have been any changes in the new release.
We've checked your codes and it looks like that the documents that they link to are set to private at Scribd's end, but we cannot view the settings. Can you confirm this for me? We haven't received any other complaints regarding the 'HTML Snippet Widget' so this is most likely to be the cause.
Hope this helps,
Ringo
Re 68, Oakmet.
Okay now: - 'Select All' works.
All my Scribd docs are 'Private' and all have gone in as such prev'ly. Notwithstanding, I loaded one up as Public, used Select all, embeded, - Preview still doesn't work, (not on any embeded doc,) - , saved; came out of Editor to look, - it was there.
I then repeated this with the previous Private version, replacing the Public version. - It also worked, (but still no preview.)
Maybe the principle problem was because the highlight drag didn't work and some trace remained, (-?) OR you've improved something since Friday. BUT why doesn't Preview button work? It doesn't go green after Apply is clicked, - it used to, I believe.
CJ
The membership log-out button doesn't appear to be working.. That is, If a member goes to log-out, the logout link/label does not function.
Correction, sorry it is working, but only if I click 5mm below the link?
@Paul - do you have an example page? I'll get the team to take a look. Thanks, Joe
When the html is released will we be able to use css along side this? if so i will definatley come back to using moonfruit as it has some amazing features. I only switched so my website was viewable on the iPhone and iPad. :p great updates though love them on my other mf sites
Hi Zak,
The plan for the improved HTML versions is to generate the CSS based on the design choices within the site itself. At this stage we're not planning to give separate CSS control for the HTML versions. However, this is a long term project which will go through many iterations, so we may provide that in the future. The immediate priority is to get a mobile optimised version that displays the content in a suitable format for small screens. We'll then add further features after that. I hope that helps,
Joe
Hi Joe. the log-in/out box that is behaving strangely is at instructors.muevete.co.uk. You have to position the curser below the log-out link for it to work. It is the same on Firefox and IE. Thanks
Hi guys. I use a ton of the HTML snippets for displaying rss feeds that i've created using feedburner. But IE6 does not display these at all and many of pages end up looking blank. take a look at the Season Tickets Classifieds page using ie6 and you'll see (or NOT see) the RSS feed of Season Ticket sales RSS from Craigslist.
Is there a work-around/fix for this?
I use a mobile phone nokia 63.
Searching for my site in internet,although browser finds it ,it is displayed as a blank page.
is there something I can do?
My mobile runs flash lite 3.0
Hang on hang on hang on Moonfruit. Whoa, hey, stop right there. You had a 'blog' widget at least two versions ago. It's not something "in the pipeline", or shouldn't be. For ages it was there but I didn't have any use for it, then when SiteMaker 4.0 came along there was a section I wanted on one of my sites that I wanted in Blog format, and found that the Blog widget had disappeared. There WAS one there before. Why is this being touted as a great new improvement? It was there, then you took it away. Now the great promise is restoring something that only appears to be new because you took it away again.
Your screenshots show the nice cheery helpful 'ribbon' icons. Since the relaunch MY copy of the "environment" doesn't have those (which was a mild annoyance but nothing major). What gives?
As for Facebook, as said in the other thread (why are there two threads about the same topic - i.e. Release of 5.0?) I don't WANT ANY Facebook integration of my site. Please give the option to turn it off. I didn't, as far as I'm aware, agree to any such Terms and Conditions when I signed up to Moonfruit ooooh... many more years ago now than I can remember... let's see.... 2002? A loyal customer turned away by being forced to work in a framework that only NEWER users want. I preferred the Moonfruit blog and forum formats, and let's face it - all Facebook is is a type of Blog. I don't see what's so innovative about it. Moonfruit is Moonfruit - Facebook is Facebook - why does one have to "follow" the other (oh sorry, that'll be the twitter element again).
I have Flash 10.1, 256Mb RAM, ATi Radeon Hypermemory Graphics Acceleration, and an Intel Pentium 2 Duo dual-core processor, yet the new interface slams my CPU and HDDs down to nothingness. Years ago I was editing Moonfruit sites at lightning speed on PCs far less equipped. What do I need now? Windows 7? 1Tb RAM? Double-headed Graphics card? Triple-core processor? PLEASE, PLEASE stop this needless "development". I could probably be told I should have seen these changes coming - oh yes, if I had the time on my hands to read pages and pages and pages of "Moonfruit Lounge" pages, but I don't. I spend most of my time working for a living and occasionally, as time and energy permit, spend time on my leisure pursuits, which sometimes, but not all the time, can include working on my home PC, a subset of that time being spent updating my Moonfruit sites. I don't have the rest of my life to spend checking to see discussion over another 250 "tweaks" that are planned for sometime next year or that now are in a few months or that may be tomorrow. I don't have TIME to keep track of these whims - I think Moonfruit was better when it was being managed by people with less of a "knee-jerk" reaction type of mentality, and wanted to keep Moonfruit separate, unique, and uniquely USABLE. If someone wants everything to go through Facebook, why not just write all the content they would otherwise put on their Moonfruit site on a huge great Facebook page instead, with all their friends-of-friends-of-friends-of-freind's comments inserted, indented, in-between every new paragraph (naturally, the latest added paragraph always appearing at the top regardless of context). Oh of course, that wouldn't make sense. Hmmmm, yet that's the major controlling force behind the new "development framework".
New stuff! Great Concept! Slower download for the regular person looking at the site....not happy. Not to mention slower download and upload with this new version. I thought it was my computer but i went to my laptops and same thing...slower. So not happy
Looking foreard to eCommerce feature - should (hopefully!) make our website far more worthwhile.
Logout Button Issue - cancel - my error - a text box was in front. Sorry.
Love, love , love moonfruit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since the upgrade we now have an intermittent problem across numerous clients who can suddenly not download any of our documents from our website.
Instead in IE6,7&8 we get a download error message:
Download Error!
An error has occured attempting to download this file. (ufnotinc)
To try to download this file again, click here to go to the site
Bizzarely it seems to work fine on Google Chrome. I have put a ticket but have been going round in circles.
Help Bob
Absolutely love Moonfruit, but could I suggest you consider a spell checker. Also have you any plans to allow for switching templates without loosing original web site content?
Hi Bob,
We did reply to both your tickets requesting further information but as yet have not received replies. We tested across a number of browsers and had no problems with downloads - hence are request for a little more information from you.
Phil,
Thanks, yes it is something we have considered but at present we are focussing on features we think would provide a bigger impact across the largest number of users. If we can find a simply solution to offering a spell checker then we'll certainly consider it.
Changing templates on the fly is not a simply thing though many people would assume it was. The templates come with specific pages, offering a given menu style, font and structure. Changing one can often break other elements. But again, it is something we are working on so that little or nothing is lost when major changes are made.
But thanks for the feedback.
Walt
I would love to see 2 small changes, well I think they are small.
1. Can we group items together so we can cut and paste and move in one go without having to select each item.
2. When I have more than 1 item selected, I can send to back, I have to send to back 1 item at a time.
Regards Christopher
PS Have recommended you to loads of people, unfortunately they still come back to me for shop settings and technical help, I thought it was easy to follow.
Is there anyway i could have a page that just needed a password without someone needing to join as a group, or have i not read the literature.
can we please have more drop down menus, for example I am putting a list of taxi services on my page and I want the audience to have a drop down menu where they can select which local area they want to search for. I have only just started using moonfruit but It seems I can only have 1 menu on the page as the site menu.
Hi there,
Is it possible to give members their own pages on a Moonfruit hosted site?
We would like our members to be able to upload a set amount of their own images to their own page, like a small profile page that other members (and only other members) of the site can see.
Cheers,
CosplayAngels
I have 3 RSS feeds coming in to my site "News" page, using the RSS Feed boxes. NonASCII characters (such as apostrophes) are not being rendered correctly in any of the feeds - one if from the BBC - and I cannot find any solutions, searching Moonfruit Lounge! Is there anything I can do to correct this problem?
Many thanks, Brian
Is there any way I can have my menu running down the side of the page rather than across the top?
It kind of works but I can't get the words to line up equally spaced and flush to the left.
Many thanks
Phil
im trying to make individual profiles but idk how! can you? if so please make it stand out because im sure many r havin the same problem
also, can you reply to the message i just sent i rly need an answer
When will I be able to show off my site to others on my iPad ?
Hi Rob,
You can show your site to others on an iPad, but I'm afraid they won't see it as intended, due to Apple not allowing Flash player on the device. Instead, we make an HTML version available that at least shows the content you have on it.
HTH,
Gary